Ivan Sukhamera was first talked about in 2014. It was an awesome and shiny story about buddies who dropped out of college on the age of twenty and earned a six-figure capital from a social media enterprise. That they had internships in China and the preparation of a startup in Dubai, the event of their promoting initiatives and work in giant firms. However time has made its changes, or somewhat transformations. Fast success and incomes ambitions pale into the background, and now Ivan might be engaged on probably the most related and important space in 2022 which is the safety of Europe.
Editorial: Greater than 5 years have handed since your final main media interview. Throughout this time, you might have modified your home of residence, the vector of labor, and the socio-political context has additionally modified. You’ve received new expertise and new competencies. However first issues first. Now you might be in Lithuania, earlier than that you simply lived in Poland, the place you had been educated at SWPS, labored with Oracle and now work with OSCE. Is every little thing proper?
Ivan: That’s proper, the occasions which have taken place throughout this time have modified many individuals together with, me.
I used to attempt to avoid politics, however through the battle or the so-called “particular operation” it’s exhausting to maintain out. Every little thing that occurs impacts everybody.
Editorial: How did these political alterations have an effect on you? Did it assist you that you simply moved earlier than the battle?
Ivan: The battle began in 2014. I moved to Poland in 2015. Alterations are an understatement; these are nice modifications to be extra exact.
Editorial: We’ve received the impression that you simply plan and put together modifications in life to a substantial diploma. We are going to return to the subject of the battle, I wish to know extra about your “Polish” stage. Earlier you stated that books and attention-grabbing persons are extra helpful than Belarusian schooling. Why did you determine to get a diploma on the Warsaw SWPS?
Ivan Sukhamera: Some issues are troublesome to plan and put together when issues flip bitter. Every little thing could be very ambiguous. You was once both pink or white. Now there are a whole bunch of shades, due to the Web for this. Decentralization takes place. However let’s not discuss concerning the battle.
As for Poland, it’s a fantastic nation that helps everybody. I’m an ethnic Polish on my grandfather’s aspect of the household. Poland was prepared for refugees, the data was confirmed greater than as soon as. They constructed complete districts throughout the nation.
Why did I research at SWPS? The standard and value of schooling are the principle criterion. A yr in the past, I used to be supplied to check at HULT, someplace in London. However it was costly. Grasp’s diploma consists of digital working techniques and community safety. In the mean time, I can’t say something about Belarusian schooling. Once I studied communicative design at VSTU, every little thing was troublesome. However you’re conscious of it.
Editorial: Would you wish to get extra schooling? How far is it even needed when every little thing is altering so shortly?
Ivan: I’m not one for getting into college for the third time, I’ve loads of work now. However it’s by no means too late to study. Not too long ago I’ve been invited to check at HULT, a enterprise faculty within the UK. I’m nonetheless considering.
Editorial: Why did you determine to show to safety subject and does schooling actually assist on this space?
Ivan: It does. Everybody has their very own duties. Our foremost purpose is to finish the battle.
Editorial: How does the present work correlate with this purpose? Since Might 2022, you might have added OSCE to your resume. Inform us the way you entered this firm and what do you do.
Ivan: It correlates immediately and never not directly, if I’ll say so. We’re monitoring the scenario in all nations in Europe. I imply not the European Union however Europe. This isn’t an organization, however a corporation (smiles). I began as a volunteer, it was attention-grabbing, now it’s tougher. There are quite a lot of incidents and provocations. It’s troublesome, usually. Not too long ago there was a congress of parliamentarians in Lodz, Poland. There may be quite a lot of info on the Web, if you’re , google it.
Editorial: What’s the toughest half? Is it in scale, duty, or within the processes themselves?
Ivan: The problem is that there are quite a lot of provocations. There’s a battle so you can’t belief anybody. I repeat, now there are quite a lot of shades, there are merely no “rights” and “wrongs”. Everybody has their very own story. We’re for safety and peace in Europe.
Editorial: How is it potential then to discover a stability and a few form of objectivity?
Ivan: I talk with totally different individuals. I take heed to their tales. Everyone seems to be totally different, and the reality is totally different for everybody.
Somebody is glad to speak and inform what is going on of their nation, somebody is aggressive, I’m already used to it. The battle might be stopped provided that we take heed to the tales of all sides.
Editorial: How can we obtain this when either side is judgemental, and there are many victims?
Ivan: We must always flip off the Web for everybody! Eternally! Kidding. Cheburnet, as China exhibits, doesn’t work. Within the info age and weapons are info.
Editorial: Is the safety of Europe the one vector of your work now?
Ivan: The vector of labor is to cease hostilities. There may be excessive threat of nuclear battle, irrespective of who says in any other case. To barter is that’s what enterprise teaches.
Editorial: Let’s return a bit. I can’t assist however ask about your early internship at Edelman. Within the PR group, that is certainly a really vital firm with giant capital. How did a younger man handle to get into it 8 years in the past?
Ivan: I used to be in China, constructed connections. At the moment there was a Russian-speaking SMM get together. Everyone knew one another.
Editorial: How do you select the sector/administrative center? Are the size, revenue, popularity of the corporate vital to you now? Or is a private criterion inferior to them: is it attention-grabbing/not attention-grabbing to do that?
Ivan: I don’t select firms, however firms select me. The principle factor is to make it attention-grabbing and helpful for peculiar individuals.
Editorial: What are your nearest plans associated to work?
Ivan: I interview and discuss to individuals who have moved to different nations due to the battle. For now, that is my activity. I ship studies, I watch the scenario, however, I’ll say once more, there are quite a lot of provocations.
Editorial: Has your social circle modified recently?
Ivan: I don’t talk with anybody (laughs). However significantly, there are only some individuals with whom I’m continually in contact. Many had been swayed by propaganda, for some Ukrainians, Belarusians at the moment are enemies. Right here is the affect of the present media, the information for all social teams is totally different.
Editorial: Don’t assaults on Belarusians by Ukrainians hinder the work associated to peace and safety? Isn’t it demotivating?
Ivan: We are able to perceive their place, battle is inhumane and breaks all guidelines.
Editorial: What distracts your from chaos and provocations?
Ivan: Cinema distracts from chaos. By the way in which, my father (editor’s be aware: Ivan’s father is screenwriter Oleg Sukhamera) will quickly launch the second movie, “Traces of the Apostles.”
Editorial: And eventually: what’s a very powerful factor for you now?
Ivan: Kindness, security, peace are what’s vital. And the power to take heed to individuals.